A rare conversation between Donald Trump and Jill Soloway.

 I like to talk long and hard about the love revolution. But it often occurs to me -- how do we talk about love when there are so many enemies? I did the thought exercise of trying to imagine if there was anything Donald could ever say that would make me feel empathy for him.  


I decided to pick up the phone and find out. 

I called every number in the DC area code, and finally reached the White House bedroom. I stayed up late, chatting with Donald for weeks. This recording is the result of my experiment in empathy and love. 

-Jill Soloway